{"id":4449,"date":"2024-08-05T10:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-08-05T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dombert.de\/?p=4449"},"modified":"2025-03-23T20:44:34","modified_gmt":"2025-03-23T19:44:34","slug":"no-different-treatment-of-yes-and-no-votes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dombert.de\/en\/keine-unterschiedliche-behandlung-von-ja-und-nein-stimmen\/","title":{"rendered":"No different treatment of yes and no votes"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"4449\" class=\"elementor elementor-4449\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ca737ed e-con-full e-flex e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"ca737ed\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-36dc9f1 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"36dc9f1\" data-element_type=\"container\" 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in the minutes. The Administrative Court (VGH) in Munich has now declared this practice of a Bavarian municipality to be unlawful because it violates the constitutionally guaranteed equality of mandates of council members (case no.: 4 ZB 23.1795 of 10 July 2024). According to the court's press release, the members of the municipal council who voted \u201eno\u201e could be more easily identified by outsiders and could therefore \u201cmore easily be personally associated with the decision taken and held accountable in public than those - initially nameless - who voted \u201cyes\"\".<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p><p>In principle, according to the municipal code applicable in Bavaria, municipalities have a great deal of leeway when recording voting results. For example, it is permissible to record the yes and no votes or who voted for and against a motion. \u201eHowever, care must be taken to ensure that all council members\u201c votes are treated equally - regardless of how they voted,\" says Rechtsanwalt Dr Dominik L\u00fcck.<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p><p>The contact person for all questions relating to municipal law in our practice is Rechtsanwalt\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/dombert.de\/en\/person\/dr-dominik-lueck\/\">Dr. Dominik L\u00fcck<\/a>.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-753bef41 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"753bef41\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-651c9691 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"651c9691\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-320d2eb2 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"320d2eb2\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><b>DOMBERT<\/b> Lawyers <\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6787dd98 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"6787dd98\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3177f582 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget-divider--view-line elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"3177f582\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5fd236c6 elementor-widget__width-auto elementor-widget-tablet_extra__width-initial elementor-widget-tablet__width-initial elementor-widget-mobile_extra__width-initial elementor-widget-mobile__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"5fd236c6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Our work covers all legal issues and conflicts in which the state, municipalities or authorities are involved.<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5f3b4b8a e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"5f3b4b8a\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-681026a elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"681026a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"https:\/\/dombert.de\/en\/law-firm\/\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">More about our firm<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-14afdc20 elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"14afdc20\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"https:\/\/dombert.de\/en\/#kompetenzen\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">More about our expertise<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>| Bei namentlichen Abstimmungen in Gemeinderatssitzungen d\u00fcrfen nicht nur die Nein-Stimmen im Protokoll festgehalten werden. 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